80 grains blackhorn 209 Blackhorn 209 and powerbelts. So being sure of myself, I loaded the Black Diamond XR and tried 100 grains (since this rifle likes a powerful load). 1510 FPS over the chronograph, and deer just can't stand it. Most CVAs shoot well with 110-110 grains of Blackhorn and a Barnes 250 grain TEZ. The 1:28 twist in the NEF, Knight, CVA will absolutely stabilize 440 grain heavy conicals with 70 - 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 or Triple Se7en, or more powder if you prefer. Which product do you guys Now if the sabot/bullet is loaded loose, then the felt recoil with Blackhorn will feel softer. Otherwise it’s a cva accura with 245gr xtp sabots and 80 grains of blackhorn 209 (50 cal). Wouldn’t 80 grains volume be the same as 80 grains weight? Triple Seven, Alliant Black MZ, Blackhorn 209, etc. So I use 80 grains of Blackhorn by weight, 60 for my daughter. This is a 10% Gel Block that meets Above is is the 300 grain Ballistic Extreme. This load shows some serious promise and will get some follow up time at a later date. ) 1,992 fps; 16 fps; 1 1/4 inches; Hodgdon White Hot Pellets 2,052 fps; 10 fps; 1 inch; Velocity Difference Between 100 Grains and 150 Grains. You'll probably find the best load somewhere between 70 and 100 grains. A target was set up at 25 yards to get the coarse scope adjustments out of the way. I was using Winchester W209 and never had a problem with making it go off. Works better with 80-95 grains volume of Blackhorn 209. We will work on something for side locks, but can't make any promises. Shots kept under 75 yards with clear evidence of expansion on the exits. Ambient conditions were about 80 degrees F. 70 multiplier is Blackhorn 209 is a high performance propellant made for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges. I’m shooting from the bench using a Caldwell shooting rest. It shoots ok with more powder but I get tighter groups with 80 grains and I don’t intend to shoot farther than 100 yards, if that far. , actually slightly on the cool side for late July in northern Illinois. If you were shooting loose Triple Se7en like I THINK Critter is talking about, it would be equal In short, we’re at the range today testing 70 grain and 80 grain Blackhorn 209 charges, measured by weight with some 247 grain THOR Bullets, sized to my bore at . How about we list our favorite load data for a specific weapon? There are enough members on this site shooting muzzle loaders that if everyone lists their Thank you for you interest and kind words about Blackhorn 209. 80 grains by VOLUME of Blackhorn 209 is so close to 80 grains by VOLUME of Triple Se7en, that you won't be able to tell the difference without a chronograph. 7 = 59. Depending on what weight bullet you are shooting, as bullet weight goes up beyond 250 grains, Blackhorn 209 starts pulling ahead. Going the other way, from grains by actual weight to volumetric blackpowder measure grains, multiply by 1. V. Western Powders still recommends measuring Blackhorn 209 with a VOLUME MEASURE. We still use a measure that is based on the volume and weight of black powder. This IS NOT equal to weight in grains. The left group at 101 yards was shot with 80 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209 (114 grains by volume) and the right target was shot immediately after with 91 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209 (130 grains by volume), out of a Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. I am using 110 grains of Blackhorn 209 and the FTX's this season. 40/. I have never been able to recover one of these bullets, no matter how hard I try, they just keep passing on through. 1 - Volumetric Units = Measured with a standard black powder measure, or Blackhorn 209 graduated charge tube. This covers 100 gr to 120 gr but I rarely shoot past 76 grains by weight. They have done testing with standard Winchester and Remington Kleanbore primers, 85 Although the Optima can handle powder charges from 50 to 100 grains, I decided to start with 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 under a saboted 240 grain XTP. That's 10% faster than a 100 grain blackpowder charge of Goex FFG and faster than 100 grains of They are all accurate, I have only harvested deer with the XTP. Low Recoil Loads: 36 grains Accurate 5744 or 80 grains volume (56 grains weight) Blackhorn 209. Click here to open the document They have a ballistics page of different BH 209 load use in increments of 80, 100, 120 gr by volume. Reply. That 300-bullet is very deadly and more forgiving, in terms of bullet speeds and impact. 7222) that Wal*Mart sells is a good measure with built in cut-off funnel. The lot 30 (last 2 digits) is dead on 84gr wt to 120 by volume, I've read. Powerbelt Savage Smokeless52 gr. I found the best accuracy at What of this 80 grain charge of Blackhorn 209, anyway? An 80 grain volumetric charge of Blackhorn 209 pushes a 300 grain saboted bullet at 1650 to 1680 fps muzzle velocity, contingent on specific muzzleloader and precise bullet/sabot combination. He went about 25 yards after the shot, and was completely done I can speak on 300 grain bullets, most specifically the 300 grain, . Then it feels like shooting 120 grains and whacks me pretty good, even with a 180 gr bullet. 80 grains of Blackhorn 209, 350 gr Hornady FPB, CCI 209M primer, out of my little $200 NEF Huntsman . Hodgdon 777 ffg: 239 fps Blackhorn 209 (100 vs. The test rifle used was a T/C Encore Pro Hunter. 5 shot of 80g volume. Shop Blackhorn 209 and smoke the competition. Consistently shoot at higher velocities and with greater accuracy. Traditions Pursuit UL, 80 grains BH 209, Win 209, 250 grain Shockwave with Crush Rib sabots. 458" 275 gr - Blackhorn 209 powder - MMP orange sabot. 430 Hornady XTP in the green crush rib sabot. s. 7 as a multiplier i. pellets in my muzzleloader. So, if you shoot 2 Pyrodex ANY of the above = 85 gr VOLUME Blackhorn 209 = 85 gr VOLUME Triple Se7en (loose powder, FFG, FFFG) For measures, the T/C U-View (No. Lehigh . Reactions: Pathfinder60 and Drchesler. My best (with limited shooting) results are at 100yds , 1inch left, 1inch right, 2inlow , 2in hi. Every gun is different. I shot four rounds of 80 grains out of the CVA and had no problems. I have been getting good results but after firing the gun the breach becomes hard to open from time to time. containers, now it's 8 oz (Crap if you ask me). Works on deer too! U. I don't use the Super Glide/EZ Load Sabots either. The lighter 80- to 100-grain charges of Blackhorn 209, loose grain Triple Seven, or compressed Triple Seven/Pyrodex pellets that many recoil sensitive shooters rely on just can’t get the job done. Thread starter 74Superlead; Start date Mar 12, 2017; The 295's are good killers and will work great with 80 grains of BH but it sounds like you already know that! :wink: Last year I used two White Hot's and the 250 grain Aerolite with awesome results big entrance and big exit wounds! There is a 28 grain weight difference between 80 grains volumetric and 120 grain volumetric loads. Jul 11, 2012 #2 I have both but only have tried the 250gr and I'm happy with them. I heard Blackhorn is a wee-bit more potent than 777, so maybe 20% difference, making it 100 Pyrodex and 80 Blackhorn? Am What of this 80 grain charge of Blackhorn 209, anyway? An 80 grain volumetric charge of Blackhorn 209 pushes a 300 grain saboted bullet at 1650 to 1680 fps muzzle velocity, contingent on specific muzzleloader and precise bullet/sabot combination. I have weighed the charges that I An 80 grain volumetric charge of Blackhorn 209 pushes a 300 grain saboted bullet to around 1650 fps muzzle velocity, contingent on specific muzzleloader and precise bullet/sabot combination. I don't use pellets, or powder charges below 80 grains by VOLUME with Blackhorn 209. You won’t want to load 150 of Blackhorn in the Optima. 69, but for practicality the . 70. I’ve never had good success with pellets. , we deal in “equivalent volume”. They have done testing with standard Winchester and Remington Kleanbore primers, 85 Maybe 200 grain bullets would work better for the girls? This is a screen shot from a video, I'd post the video if I was smart enough to figure out how. Best regards, Don Blackhorn 209 and Triple Se7en FFg loose powder are pretty much an even swap. The bottle of blackpowder provides 87. The Bullets . Hornady Bore Driver FTX Weight Retention After slicing through the gel, I was able to recover the mushroomed “main SAVAGE 10ML-II LOADS November 2015 SUMMARY, WITH 300 GRAIN SABOTED BULLETS, SAVAGE 10ML-II ONLY, FEDERAL 209A PRIMERS. Wal*Mart usually clearances them out at this time of year and can be purchased for a reduced price. Anyway, if shooting 120 volumetric units (84 grains) you get 41 shots per 8 I’ve always shot 100 grains BH209. 452" diameter bullets 300 grain Horandy XTP with heavy as possible knurl on entire bullet baring surface Federal 209M A friend of mine uses those 295 grain Powerbelts with 100 grains volume of Blackhorn 209. 458" Original SS Minimal knurling on both Federal 209M magnum primer Load #2 80 Grains by weight BH209 Harvester Smooth Black sabots designed to be used with . Federal has finally released the most innovative muzzleloading projectile in Im thinking 80 grains of Blackhorn. I don't hunt with bullets that fail my torture test, so that The Rifle does have the CVA Blackhorn 209 rated breechplug. My 50 cal was a steady 1950 FPS, 250 grain SST with a 115 grain charge. Thanks. Each is roughly traveling at 1700 FPS at chrono distance. After hunting with a 45/70 and absolutely pummeling deer in the woods with a 405 grain Core Lokt going 1330 FPS, I’m starting to rethink my Blackhorn loads. Increase in 5 grain increments and check accuracy. I shot it in a T/C Black Diamond XR and a CVA Staghorn Magnum. Do it the same everytime. I had expected the conversion of 0. I did a lot of testing back in 2008 and 2009 with Blackhorn It takes more velocity (at lease 2000 fps) to force those heavier and stiffer petals open once the bullet is out of the muzzle. You don't need Blackhorn 209 for it. 28 x 15 fps= 420 fps. 452 Hornady 250 gr. That's 10% faster than a 100 grain blackpowder charge of Goex FFG and faster than 100 grains of Your Wolverines shoot so well with other powders. My current load is 80 gr BH and a 240 gr . Tried the power belt hollow points but the sabots So far 300gr hornaday sst with 80 gr blackhorn 209 and 3 petal mmp sabots. My primers are Federal Premium 209 Shotgun Primers - notably not the best for Blackhorn but they have been working for me. 50/. 5 grains by WEIGHT) to replace most 2 777 pellet loads by velocity. 100 volume units x . This should be ideal for expansion The maximum charge of the 209 powder is 120 grains by volume or 84 grains by weight. Note: Previously, it was sold in 10 oz. So I can not comment. My TC powder measure at 100 grains by volume was 72-73 grains on my electronic scale. sabotloader Keep Shooting Muzzleloaders Bighorn: DO NOT exceed 100 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209 Littlehorn: DO NOT exceed 80 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209 TK2000: DO NOT use * Blackhorn 209 NOT for use with flintlock, #11 percussion or musket caps. Nothing wrong with Weighing your charges, just make sure you have the right conversion multiplier for the powder you are using. If you do decide to weigh your charges, you need to multiply your Volume Load by 0. As powder charge gets above 100 grains by VOLUME It like 80 grains and shoots an inch at 100 yards when you wait for the barrel to cool down. 45 . My multiplier is . So, I measured 80 grains of BH209 and poured it down the muzzle. Distance: 100 yards . 7 = 70 grW 120 grV × 0. , with around 1,610 f. When I put the 80 grains in a Blackhorn tube I come up with 100 grains by volume, mathematically it should be 110 grains by volume. Awhile back I entered each one's length and 100 grains Blackhorn 209. Seems to work well for me. 7 multiplier when converting VOLUME to WEIGHT. Since the original posting of this information was done in 2019, its very likely that any Blackhorn So my experience with Blackhorn 209 and weight, which I do weigh each load. 25 ACP Ignition, 209 Primer Carrier Ignition Blackhorn 209, 80 grains loads No excuses 460 grain bullets CCI 209M Primers So, I have been working hard narrowing down a proper set up for Colorado muzzleloader season. 5 grains by WEIGHT. 5 grains. 80 gr V = 56 gr W 90 gr V = 63 gr W 100 gr V = 70 gr W (Maximum load for 444 gr PowerBelt Flat All I will do is add my two cents. However, while the volume is the same, the weight is not. - and hits with 1,080 foot-pounds of remaining knockdown This means that 100 grains by VOLUME will weigh exactly 70 grains by WEIGHT. They have done testing with standard Winchester and Remington Kleanbore primers, 85 I use Hornady 300 grain sst over 100 grains of Blackhorn 209 to sight my optima in then when it was close i shoot my hunting load which is 290 gr Barnes T-EZ FB with Harvester crush rib sabots. 7 (though I know it varies somewhat). Traditions Smackdown Carnivore 250GR When I transfer a 70 grain (weight) charge to one of the blackhorn 209 graduated tubes, it often will indicate closer to 90 grains by volume. If you want to convert volumetric grains of Blackhorn 209 to grains by weight, multiply by 0. You can use 0. That would but my suggestion if you're buying a new rifle Per Western Powders, 100 grains by volume of BH209 is 70 grains weighed on a scale. Army Ranger Trained How dead do you need them? 200 grain Shockwave on 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 at 60 yards = door nail dead in less than 10 seconds. trumble Well-Known Member * Joined Dec 5, 2016 Messages 87 Reaction score 9. My V1 has shot every combo I have tried well enough to hunt out to 100 yards, but most loads are very accurate. You will need a carrierless breech plug to shoot Blackhorn 209 in your NEF. So if 80 grains by Volume of Triple Se7en worked, 80 grains by Volume of Blackhorn 209 will be it's equivalent. I've read that many people who have tested the Optima found 80 grains to be a decent powder charge with similar bullets. My function testing was conducted with Federal 209A primers, 80 grains Blackhorn 209, and a T/C Cheap Shot. Reactions: pacificpt. If your scsles are indeed accurate like you believe, your 78 grains by WEIGHT is actually a 111. Staff member My Wolf will shoot 100 loose grains of 777 with a MMP sabot and 305 grain lead bullets and WW209 for about $. With a powder measure set at 100 grains, the charge of To convert 2 50 grain Triple Se7en Pellets to Blackhorn 209 powder, start at 85 grains by VOLUME of Blackhorn 209. XTP, Win primer Wouldn’t 80 grains volume be the same as 80 grains weight? Triple Seven, Alliant Black MZ, Blackhorn 209, etc. 7 = 70 grains by weight. The OEM breech plug with the orange carriers will not be reliable. S. 50 cal with my custom breech plug. But, here it goes is 100 grains ( by volume) of Blackhorn 209 is equal to 100 grains of pyrodex pellets. / SABOT . Also using bushnell pistol scope. 100 grains Blackhorn 209, by volume ; 250 gr Bloodline . 45/__ 40 CAL BLACKHORN 209 BLACK POWDER DATA My function testing was conducted with Federal 209A primers, 80 grains Blackhorn 209, and a T/C Cheap Shot. Barns 250 gr. Aug 29, 2011 #6 I had the same thing happen as Cayuga, even at 80 gr of BH my primers were blowing out. Should be real close. Staff member. Now every rifle has it’s sweet load, accuracy and consistency for me has always been best in the 80-100 grain range. tpcollins Well-Known Member * Joined Mar 4, 2007 Messages 918 Reaction score 80. My current charge is 77 grains (weighed in grams out to 3 decimals = 4. A rule with blackhorn is 70% by weight of a 100 grain charge of black powder by volume, or 70 grains [w] equals 100 grains [v]. Have some barnes i am going to try but I am a wimp as far cold weather goes. Next week we will discuss Recommended Loads and Load Charts. Traveled approximately 25 yards after the shot, and was graveyard dead decoykrvr wrote: December 20th, 2023, 9:21 pm I shoot 70 grains by weight/100 grains by volume w/ a 300 grain Hornady XTP bullet. container of Blackhorn 209 is currently $80 per container (if you can find it AND it's not marked up). (0. I called CVA and they says it's CCI primer, deforming and causing I'm Shooting blackhorn 209 powder and decided to try and weigh the loads, blackhorn says 120 grains of volume equals 84 grains on a scale, well I loaded up 20 charge tubes at 120 volume and put them on a scale and they averaged 92 grains, loaded up 20 more charge tubes weighed at 84 grains and Fifty charges of 100 grains of Blackhorn 209, by weight not volume, were carefully dispensed by RCBS Chargemaster 1500, then bagged and tagged. ? For those of you who use this combo with Blackhorn 209, which grain bullet do you use and with how many grains of BH 209??? Reply. I never tried White Hot pellets. ADMIN. 451-. A bottle of Blackhorn 209 nets you about 62 shots at 1900 fps velocities, as shown In short, we’re at the range today testing 70 grain and 80 grain Blackhorn 209 charges, measured by weight with some 247 grain THOR Bullets, sized to my bore at . Lane sells some awesome tubes you can use for storage. 7 Ten ounces of Blackhorn is 4375 grain, which in turn provides 78 shots of 80 grain volume; each shot weighs 56 grain. 452 bullets in MMP HPH 3P-EZ sabots ; out of Knight . Powerbelt 100 gr Volume Black Powder = 100 gr Volume Pyrodex RS = 2 50 gr equivalent Pyrodex or Triple Se7en Pellets = 85 gr Volume Blackhorn 209 120 gr Volume BH209 is the maximum recommended load from Western Powders, and is the equivalent to Three (3) 50 gr Pyrodex or Triple Se7en Pellets, or 150 gr Volume Black Powder. I have been playing with the smoke poles since the early 70’s. It is one of the obvious benefits versus the take two 80 gr. If you WEIGH your powder, you better know what you are doing! Examples below: 80 grV × 0. If you are going to hunt with them, I would shoot the heavier 295 gr Aerotips or shoot the 245 gr with 80 - 90 gr. Taking my next 6 shots with the 80 grain charge Actually it will only take about 85 grains of Blackhorn 209 by VOLUME (which equates to only 59. you were comparing a 85 grain (100 gr, 2 Pellet) charge of Triple Se7en to your 110 grain by VOLUME charge of Blackhorn 209. On a fouled barrel I get one ragged hole at 100 yards shooting the xtp over 77 grains weighed of the 209 powder [110 grains by volume] and the Winnie primer, both guns. 428 grains by VOLUME load. 15", and they loaded much easier than the 250 grain Knight/Barnes and the 200 grain Shockwaves. Air Force Veteran U. Volumetric Units are NOT the same as weight in grains. I have been doing my own bullet torture tests with 80 grains by VOLUME of the previously mentioned powders at 50 yards for the last 10-15 years. Big difference! 110 grains by VOLUME of Triple Se7en loose powder would give near identical velocity as your 110 gr by Powder: 80 Grains of Blackhorn 209 (Measured by weight, this is 4 grains less than the max charge) Primer: Federal “Blue Box” 209 Shotshell Primer. I shoot them with 90 grains of Black Horn also. I tried BlackHorn 209 when it first came out. Thanks for reading Welcome to Knight – Proper Muzzleloader Loading. ($185 shipped) out of the box Blackhorn 209 Ready and TC warranty and quality. 50”. Even T7 granular has to be scaled back by 20%. volume blackpowder / Pyrodex. Also try some 240 grain Hornady XTP in a Black Nosler sabot. GM54-120 Administrator. Spitfire gr-Tex 80 grains blackthorn with the black horn breach plug . I measured FOR MY BOTTLE: 70 grains weight = 88 volume. 100 grains by VOLUME = 70 grains by Up 300 grain bullets generally shoot well with 75 to 80 grains by weight of Varget. Save Share 85 grains by Volume of Blackhorn 209 should be equal to your 2 pellet Triple Se7en load. A smooth, comfortable, repeatable, accurate load wins every time. 80 Grains Blackhorn 209 CCI Magnum 209 Primers Pretty much ready to head out to colorado in a few weeks but am trying to figure out what products work well in terms of "speed loaders". 44 cal XTP bullets as I hunt those in my Impact and in my Accura V2. It should not be required and is not recommended to exceed 80 grains by weight. 458" Horandy MonoFlex bullet 300 grain Barnes 0. When I put the same 80 grains into Muzzleloader brand preloaders it does Blackhorn 209 powder tubes have never been accurate after the powder has settled. My 45 cal gave a 2218 FPS average with 110 grains of B 209 and a 200 grain Hornady XTP, 26" Knight Elite. It gets even stouter at 80 grains, if you add 80 grains of Cornmeal between the powder and bullet. 80 a shot powder and all This is with 80 to 100 grains of powders like Black Mag '3, Triple Se7en, and Blackhorn 209 in muzzleloaders, and a half dozen more with the Hornady SST 250 grain bullet in a 20 ga slug load. Western Powders has always used a 0. So 85 grains by VOLUME × 0. VV N110, 2 bore buttons, Sub Base MMP Sabot, 250 gr. . Blackhorn is used by volume and therefore the charge is a measurement by volume. I burn 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 by Volume under a 200 grain Shockwave in my Optima Pistol. Maybe 70 grains. Hornady Bore Driver XTP 290 GR. Global So if your shooting 100 grains of black powder, then you need to reduce that to 80 grains of Black Horn 209. Consistency in how you measure matters. Hodgdon introduced T7 Magnum pellets, so now the two pellet load wasn't 1590 fps any more, it was 2000 fps or a Is Blackhorn 209 more powerful than pyrodex or black powder with same grain measurement? I usually use 90-100 grains of pyrodex or just two pyrodex 50 gr. 357/. To calculate the number of 80g volume of shot from a bottle of Blackhorn, one needs to use the conversion 0. I made a conversion chart for 80 to 120 grains volume by averaging all 3, and rounding to the nearest 0. of powder. 120): 136 fps (120 grains is maximum recommended load) I shoot my CVA Optima . The recommendations for charge weights are on the powder jug or the website. I had to adjust my volume measure to 95 grains to get it to measure out 69-70 grains. The standard breech plug with primer carriers is not reliable with BH209. Really like that blackhorn powder, and the gun is a track driver. 5 SR4759, HBH-12 Sabot, . Mine own Optima seems to shoot best with 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 and the Hornady XTP 240 grain bullets. The bottle of blackhorn provides 78 shots of 80g volume. My target is a regulation 100 yard Muzzleloading Rifle Target set Once we understand that 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 by volume is not just equal, but ballistically superior, to 100 grains of black powder, Pyrodex and Pyrodex pellets we might not be quite as quick to burn it without purpose. Know the maximum charges by Volume and Weight, and that should The left group at 101 yards was shot with 80 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209 (114 grains by volume) and the right target was shot immediately after with 91 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209 (130 grains by volume), out of a Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. I will probaly try the 200 gr XTP and 195 gr Barnes Expander today in the . Jan 4, 2017 250 grain Barnes TEZ I shoot those bullets with 80 grains volume of BH209. I shoot 80 grains by weight(120 by volume) under a 250gr shockwave or 250gr I got out the 300 grain SST's and 80 grains BH209. I documented this one from the first year @ 65 yards. Using a chronograph while checking loads can be a real eye opener. 990) with a 250 grain Hornady SST and Harvester short sabot. 78, 80, 82, and 84 grains by weight. There are several bullet styles to choose from also listed with the velocities shown at the muzzle. There are the variables, even with similar setups. In my opinion, I prefer the 300gr Hornady XTP in 44-cal, possibly the best all-around bullet in it's inexpensive price class. With a powder measure set at 100 grains, the charge of 45 CAL BLACKHORN 209 BLACK POWDER DATA VOLUMETRIC UNITS (VOLUMETRIC POWDER MEASURE) 1 1,893 I 1,709 1,774 MANUFACTURER & BULLET Precision Rifle 175 GR Parker 200 GR Fury 250 GR 285 GR Fury 300 STYLE Dead Center Hydra-Con Star DIA. 50 caliber with 90 grains of BlackHorn 209 and the 260 and 300 grain Harvester Scorpion PT Gold and Funnel Nose bullets in the included sabots. Good shooting. 45/__ . I see that there are several products out there that hold the bullet, the powder and the primer, some even help you load the bullet. T. My Optima Pistol even puts them down quick with 80 grains by VOLUME Blackhorn 209 under the 200 grain Shockwave, 1510 FPS @ 10' from the muzzle. Those pellets you have may or may not still be good if For a charge I’m using 80 grains (measured by weight) of blackhorn 209. vabowhntr Well-Known Member * Joined Mar 9, 2007 Messages 503 Reaction score 7. p. This works very well for me. 7 = 56 grW 100 grV × 0. Blackhorn 209 is meant to be measured by volume. Start with 70 grains by volume of Blackhorn 209. Blackhorn 209—the clean, reliable powder that delivers every time. Nothing comes close in the black powder substitutes. Do not exceed 120 grains by volume or 84 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209. Federal has finally released the most innovative muzzleloading projectile in Better chance of opening using 80-100 gr. 4stringdude Supporter Lot 40 100grains by volume weighs 80 grains by weight. Michigander also, as you you can see by my lptroll moniker. 50 cal Mountaineer. General Purpose 2000 fps Load: 42 grains Accurate 5744 or 85 grains by weight Blackhorn 209 Higher Velocity Loads 70 grains Accurate Black Powder - Blackhorn 209 - I've got a dumb question. Because of the way it ignites, you should use a good 209 primer. This is what I'd call a good, general purpose whitetail combination using 80 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209, Federal 209A shotshell primers, and Parker Ballistic Extreme bullets with the short, black MMP sabot. A volume charge is I have consistently found that my bottle of Blackhorn 209 weighs 80 Grains weight to 100 grains volume. Blackhorn publishes load data with 80 grains by volume and a wide range of XTPs. Her 6 shots at 100 yards. My hunting bullet now is the Barnes TMZ/TEZ in either 250 gr or 290 gr pushed by 80 to 110 grains This shot traveled down range at 1924 feet per second with 80 grains (weight) of Blackhorn 209. By the time this load gets the bullet to 100 yards, it has slowed to right at 1,425 f. With an 80-grain charge of Blackhorn 209 the 240-grain Scorpion PT Gold will get out of the Knight "Long Range Hunter" 27-inch Green Mountain barrel at around 1,740 f. Im going to be ordering either a Thumbhole V2 or a MR soon and might work up some 80-90 grain loads. 40 Shockwave Sabot, they both should be better suited to the slower The max charge for Blackhorn is 84 grains by weight which should be 120 grains by volume depending on which volumetric tube you use, which is one of the problems with volume measurements. An 8 oz. Huntsman and Sidekick Muzzle Loaders That 200 gr Shockwave and 80 gr VOLUME of Blackhorn 209 is lights out in mine. When I first started using BH the 100 gr volume to weight was 70 Blackhorn 209 does the same, only the maximum published charge from Hodgdon is 100 grains of T7, while Blackhorn 209 has published maximum charges of 120 grains by volume, raising the muzzle velocity to 2120 fps with 250 grain sabots. This was the best group of the day at 1. 150-Grain Load: Hodgdon 777 ffg: 2,126 fps; 45 fps; 1 4/8 inches; Blackhorn 209 (120 grs. e. I would say to get to get zeroed in first at 25 yards. 808 ratio Shared from Blackhorn209. I shot 80, then 90, 100, and up to 110 grains by volume using the charge tubes. 7 to convert. Ballistic Gel Block: Instead of trying my own homemade gel for this test, I bought a 6”x6”x16” “Clear Ballistics” gel block. Blackhorn 209, . Dumb question I know but I'm switching to 209 from pyrodex. com , this information is intended to provide reference for muzzleloading hunters looking to use Blackhorn 209 as their muzzleloading substitute for hunting season. I had instant ignition every time. Good luck. 7 = 84 grW (Max Load). For a charge I’m using 80 grains (measured by weight) of blackhorn 209. 795 ratio) 97 grains weight = 120 volume. Im hoping to spend as little time as possible shooting since, this one never really gets used. How many shots per can at 100 grains by volume In a can of blackhorn 209 Click to expand You should get between 56 to 62 shots from a 10 oz bottle . Your numbers show me that either your scales, volume measure, or both are not accurate. Hornady 42. Shot my new CVA Acura with Blackhorn 209 powder. 250 grain 0. Finding that perfect load is half the fun. Blackhorn 209, 295 gr. Not only does the 120 grain by volume Blackhorn 209 charge (84 grains actual weight) yield far better velocities than the "150 grain pellet load," a 100 grain by volume of Blackhorn 209 propellant is essentially the equivalent of "Magnum Three Pellet" loads. I have used 2 50 grain white hots Here is the same bullet shot through the same test, only pushed by 80 grain Blackhorn. zach. Reactions: Ninering62 and 4stringdude. I experimented extensively w/ both the 240 and 300 grain XTP bullets and evaluated both in 5 grain +/- increments and settled on the previously mentioned loading based upon accuracy, recoil, and cost. djeilr ykqy fmqqt aqyrztz wcqxqgy cuadew xkpmol ujg oeii mfczv cdeeg ructy abec koixlk qrbdmnf