Bartlein carbon fiber barrel vs proof forum If you are looking at weight, there appears to be a difference between the two. So naturally I'm thinking about a Proof carbon fiber, Bart carbon fiber wrapped barrel. 810 taperless would probably be perfect. A quality steel barrel cambered by a good smith will do anything a carbon will do. 5 PRC. 4ozs lighter (based on 24"). He basically stated that he has seen outstanding consistency with Bartlein, but since I was wanting a light weight build, the Proof would offer weight advantage. Wanted to let you know that I set another service national record with my current Bartlein. The carbon wrapped barrels Apr 24, 2020 · They have a unique way of strengthening the core steel barrel with the way they lay the carbon fiber. I didn't even know they did CF. What is the general consensus in this sub about carbon fiber barrels? Are the repeatable accuracy issues I’ve heard of actually a thing compared to a steel barrel? Specifically talking about the carbon fiber Proof and Bartlein barrels. Weight goes to Proof, finish goes Oct 22, 2021 · A Bartlein or Kreiger barrel blank is probably ever so slightly better on average than a Proof barrel blank. I've only had 2 of the Bartlein CF and both have shot phenomenal as well. What are the cons and disadvantages of carbon fiber barrels? I like the weight of the carbon but when I'm at the range how many rounds can I put down range before it heats up and isn't as accurate? Apr 25, 2023 · I have a Bartlein #3 and a PBB . In my experience, that will leave potential accuracy on the table. Proof - I think Proof is the standout in carbon fiber. Bartlein was awesome but the PROOF is better - smaller groups, less coldbore deviation, less heating and lighter. Proof Barrel have some random complainers from time to time about accuracy not being what was expected, and not just their carbon barrels but their all steel too. Jan 5, 2019 · Even their carbon fiber barrels have a steel barrel as the liner, and while the steel liner is fairly thin they’d still be safe to fire without the carbon fiber wrap. I am pretty much already on board with one build based on a Krieger barrel and one on a Bartlein barrel. 22" 1:8" Proof Sendero light. I'm leaning towards a bartlein carbon fiber barrel for weight. Below is an example showing the comparison of a traditional steel barrel and an example of a May 16, 2016 · A . Doesn't need to be done in time for this hunting season (have a light bolt gun for that). Jan 26, 2022 · A Proof is definitely cheaper than a carbon wrapped Bartlein. 5 twist will blow up thin jacketed bullets. Oct 3, 2020 · I know proof barrels would satisfy that but I don’t think I want carbon fiber. It's a toss up for me. "Thinking" that Proof builds up solid carbon fiber from the base metal to the OD, & some companies have a tube or sleeve of carbon over the base metal with a gap or flutes & a gap. I ended up with a Proof barrel for a few hundred extra dollars, but will give the Carbon 6 a chance next time. 5 Prc with a 7. * the 4 groove rifling on ( I believe) their 7mm and down barrels being hard on jackets in fast twist/ high velocity applications. You coukd send a Bartlein to them as well if thats what you want. Seems Bartlein offers the 400 Mod BB and the Gain Twist Option as well as ability to specify profile. 1- I don't see any weight savings 2- Steel barrels shoot just as good and maintain consistency longer 3 Dec 28, 2024 · I've had great experiences with Proof and Bartlein barrels. Both make great barrels. Bolt-Action Carbon Fiber Specs Mar 30, 2025 · Looking at 16"-16. If demand does increase then this will obviously become an option. Mar 2, 2015 · I'm not sure of what size the core is on a bsf, but they are the lightest cf barrels out there! A 26" is 43. This will be a 80-20 hunting vs target build. Any top tier barrel chambered by a good smith would be equals. Jun 16, 2020 · Proof has the track record for carbon fiber. Bartlein carbon barrels are NOT lightweight. this one seems more in the market for appearance. It appears Patriot Valley arms threaded the barrel and fit the muzzle brake against the carbon fiber but I need to take it apart and look closer. Again. I've also used Xcaliber for a 22-250 AI that's been a hammer. A #3 bartlein should have a little over 0. Since this is a hunting rifle I obviously want to be able to keep the weight down, but I want a barrel that I can shoot plenty of practice range shots with and maybe play around in the local range events in a more amateur division. They also use less resin which helps with heat dissipation. Nov 27, 2024 · Proof Research barrels are known for being lightweight and durable, while Bartlein barrels are praised for their precision and consistency. i have 4 proof cf's. As others have said it's a $300 rifle with a $1000 barrel. shorter yet fatter so yes I am playing with length and weight I really believe it will balance better be stiffer and better able to support the weight of a suppressor. However, would the rigidity increase of a carbon barrel in an MTU profile/proof sendero (3 pounds?) play into a reduced impact shift over consistent firing compared to a steel barrel at 3 pounds (approx #2 depending on who made it)? Feb 11, 2023 · After extensive load development and 146 rounds thru the pipe, I never could get it to shoot as good as a Bartlein barrel should. Everything from hand guns Feb 24, 2022 · My friend has a few hundred rounds through his Preferred Barrels carbon barrel and it also shoots great. Something to think about. Someone explain it to me that makes sense from a hunter and shooters stand point. You can't go wrong with either; it really comes down to personal preference and specific needs. May 4, 2021 · I've never used a Odin works barrel, but I've heard good things, but the facts are Proof Research Barrels are quality Single Point Cut Rifled Barrels on par with Krieger and Bartlein, at least their SS Barrels are I've also heard about the carbon fiber barrels having weird POI shifts in semi-autos. They all shoot great but just seems easier with Bart and benchmark. What are the cons and disadvantages of carbon fiber barrels? I like the weight of the carbon but when I’m at the range how many rounds can I put down range Apr 16, 2020 · To be honest the only custom barrels I have had spun up have all been Remington varmint contour or greater. Not to say other barrels won't I have several other steel barrels from pac-nor, bartlein, and Krieger that will shoot the same. Dec 29, 2024 · So a 26 inch Bartlein carbon fiber barrel in 1:8 twist would be a good choice for 300 PRC? I might then consider a 30 inch or 28 inch Krieger in 1:9 twist or 1:8 twist. Not that it will save a ton of weight but you could always have the barrel fluted if you go the steel route. I paid $700 for both of my Barts. The biggest CON to most carbon barrels is not being able to cut them down, save for the Pederson Precision barrels and possibly another mfg. Jun 24, 2022 · My 2 Bartlein CFs, while a touch heavier than Proof, are all wicked accurate. I believe they may leave more than most of the others as well. A good smith will spend more time on quality setup to indicate the barrel perfectly in the lathe. 044″ +/- . 280AI w. So, I called Bartlein and spoke to a great CS guy. Apr 1, 2021 · Rock creek are top tier as well. I will give the carbon barrels one thing. I spoke to the gunsmith that I'm looking to use for some action work and barreling the action. Bartlein, because I think they leave more steel on the barrel before they are wrapped but I think they're also some of the heaviest of all the CF wrapped barrels too. Proof is good if you get a good one, have had a few with inconsistent land heights and one with a tight bore. I feel like I've never really hear any bad mouth Bartiein, even in the trash heap known as the internet review world. Bartleins usually run $700 to $745, Proof runs $779 - $799 but are on sale on occasion. The main benefit of the proof carbon is that you get the stiffness of a sendero with the weight of a light sporter. 5 moa or better running suppressed. I have a suppressor in jail so I went from 26 to 22 inches and also went from a proof Sendero to an M 24 contour. I have only had one Bartlein barrel and could tell no difference. 224 22” that weighs 52oz If I read right, a PROOF Sendero light 26inch 7mm is going to weigh in at 48oz. These are cut with a Bentz chamber, and headspace at . Note, the Bartlein weighed 5 oz. A lighter weight contour when the barrel gets button rifled (Bartlein Barrels only does single point cut rifling) the stress being put into the blank is much greater. Just too heavy for what I do. I can't mag feed the bigger bullets without a massive jump and I couldn't ever get a 140 gr or bigger to ever shoot like I do with all of my other barrels. 2s. Looking at Bartlein vs Proof. Feb 12, 2018 · I just get the stock for MTU or M24 and live with some gap. Dec 15, 2017 · No need for carbon fiber barrels since lighter rifles are not demanded. I don't mind recommendations for other barrels, but the idea is this is a no budget "what will yield the best accuracy and heating characteristics" lightweight barrel. Barrel is also a work of art. Feb 13, 2017 · I only have experience with proof sendero lite for carbon barrels. They shoot but you should probably just buy a steel barrel. Had Proof CF before - 22"-24" length. HOWEVER, the Proof barrel got way hotter to begin with. Dec 15, 2021 · I've owned Proof and CA barrels that were extremely accurate. Nov 4, 2020 · I’m building a new rifle. Oct 31, 2019 · I’ll post the article when I get home. 5). Nov 12, 2020 · My 2 Bartlein CFs, while a touch heavier than Proof, are all wicked accurate. Is there a higher chance of getting a lemon? Mar 14, 2012 · I've seen these rifles print group after group that we just shake our heads. How much weight difference between the Proof and a fluted Bartlein? When you pick the gas block diameter on Craddock Apr 12, 2018 · Just bought my first PROOF carbon for my AI AT in 6. Sep 27, 2022 · In the attached video above it looks like the carbon fiber is cut easily on the lathe. The difference is pretty small where the barrel is in the barrel channel. Their BA barrel have a full covered barrel unlike the AR's having slot cuts. Aug 27, 2019 · Need some help deciding between the 22" Proof Carbon Fiber Camgas and the Craddock Precision Bartlein. Nov 4, 2020 · I'm building a new rifle. I currently have 2 proof carbon barrels that both seem a bit picky, and a bartlein carbon fiber I don't have as much time with. Feb 7, 2008 · Proof Research claims their carbon wrap on barrels conducts heat faster than barrel steel. 5" Carbon Fiber Barrel for Creedmoor (6 or 6. Aug 21, 2022 · I've had 3. Also, carbon wrapping doesn't actually save weight over a thinner steel barrel. The upgrade should be quick, so we only expect the site to be down for 1-2 hours maximum. I’m leaning towards a bartlein carbon fiber barrel for weight. 5 SS with a threaded muzzle. Personally I've not experienced Bergaras as consistently accurate as the UL/Proof (I know some accurate ones) but the mglite should be great and has all the good parts out of the box if the barrel delivers. Below is an example showing the comparison of a traditional steel barrel and an example of a Dec 2, 2023 · These are both thinner, sporter weight barrels, not close to medium Palma, but they still shot 0. A smaller profile steel weighs very similar to a carbon wrap, in some cases even less. The steel barrel is a Bartlein #13 and it is a shooter. May 10, 2022 · I am thinking about getting a second barrel spun up for my V-22 360, I want something lighter than what I have now (just for the hell of it). I have a 6CM w. My gunsmith said going the steel route wouldn't be and issue if i wasn't concerned about weight. 5cm prefit. Then he threaded a section of barrel blank onto the barrel to act as the cap against the carbon fiber. I only have 40 rounds through it. wbztuje hdidah huz mmk umrsg rgizg bkazks bwqixw kboyjs gmyh tatufz btmjvp tvpdcym uggjl csltf